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  1. Gerry Nally
    January 16, 2014

    2015 opening my tush. This is a disaster that has been in play since 9/11 when the plan started to throw out tenants on the sneak by the EDC

  2. D Fabrizio
    January 16, 2014

    I don't believe one word that the Hughes representatives say………….develop, develop, develop……..all over
    the City of New York and especially downtown where there are water views. No schools in the plan, no
    senior center, no affordable shopping, no reasonable shopping center………..only a tower reaching to the
    sky and blocking citizens views of the East River and the Brooklyn Bridge.. Does the Hughes Corporation
    really care about residents in the Seaport and Financial Area? Ouch! My foot!

    • NikosMilos
      January 18, 2014

      Wow do you live down here seems not?
      1. Spruce street school opened 2 years ago 3 blocks away.
      2. No shopping center – 5 blocks west , new World Trade Center mall= 500,000 sq feet
      3. Senior center- high rise on Fulton and water for years now –

      Other than that you are spot on –

  3. deb
    January 17, 2014

    What a shame! These people do not care one bit about the community. They are ruining the character of our neighborhood!

  4. eric
    January 17, 2014

    very discussing that we are not keeping the history of th area now a tall building with sail boats come on ,we need to preserve the history and culture there everything should be landmarked nyc keeps destroying our area put one tower more will come try investing in saving the seaport rich history very disgusting

  5. Madeline R
    January 17, 2014

    This is an excellent article as far as it goes, but it doesn't probe deeply enough: it begins with the assumption, promulgated by Hughes and EDC, that this is simply another neighborhood and another development site. It frames this as a two-sided fight between a greedy developer and a local community that wants the same things other communities want and need: schools, libraries, parks, etc. But that ignores the Seaport's uniqueness as a historic site of national — indeed international — significance.This special place — New York's oldest historic district, the birthplace of the great Port of New York, and for hundreds of years, the city's market district — isn’t just another development site, and doesn't belong solely to the local community. The article focuses exclusively on the tower, but ignores the fact that Hughes already controls a lot more of the district than that site and is angling for more. I believe the tower is simply a "red herring" to divert attention from their larger plans: Hughes will make concessions, as the article implies. They may agree to a lower building or to relocation. But they could still destroy the two historic structures at the historic Fulton Fish Market, famous around the world, and they will undoubtedly continue to "program" what they have publicly referred to as "their campus," filling it with activities that detract and in some cases obliterate neighborhood's historic character: a fake grass lawn obliterating the cobblestones! Fake-hipster food stalls in shipping containers that overshadow historic buildings and streets; a skating rink they promised would be free to locals, but lo-and-behold now costs $10. And they are proposing more: let’s hear it for a movie theater that serves dinner! (Really? New Yorkers need a place to see movies that also serves crappy food?) The rest of the city is becoming a mall. That was tried at the Seaport and it failed. The Hughes mall, already approved for Pier 17, will is headed for the same fat. Let's not let these misguided mall developers from Dallas do any more damage in our city. The Seaport needs and deserves a democratic, transparent planning process that charts a course for this district that respects its history, its authenticity, and all the people who care about it, wherever they come from.

  6. bob
    January 17, 2014

    I'm a rare new yorker in that I both live in Southstreet seaport, my business is here, and I owen a boat and fish in new york harbor (boat is in brooklyn though). I'm also Italian American and following on a 100 year tradition of fishermen in new york. I can't wait to be able to walk down to the water and have my boat there. This is the greatest thing I could possibly imagine. People should remind themselves that everything old is new again.

    • NikosMilos
      January 18, 2014

      Well said – change is good and the seaport needs a re boot. But we will be labeled as tea bangers by the left wing occuskumers against it.

  7. Doris on Fulton
    January 19, 2014

    I have lived on Fulton St for several years and attended the Town Hall meeting, Im glad to report that there is a far larger group of supporters for this project that include young families, small businesses, and residents of the area. The Seaport has been a neglected area for years and it was brought on by poor Museum leadership combined with a retail model that quickly became outdated. Can you name for me other cultural institutions that have gone through multiple leadership changes in such short time spans? Not likely – because the museum model was doomed from the start. The romantic vision of a Nantucket village preserved on the East River does nothing to actually convey the history of this jewel of a neighborhood. The Town Hall meeting was a sham, a gathering of kooks and assorted obstructionists that fear change so much they are fighting a fight based on misinformation and conspiracy theories. The fact is love or hate the designs shown – the Seaport needs a huge change, something only private investment can deliver. Giving more time to supposedly review these plans will only allow this forgotten area to fall deeper into despair. Although I can only assume thats what the opponents want – no change at all, and from that you get what you asked for. Nothing.

  8. george
    January 20, 2014

    The Seaport pier is a mess, the vast majority of visitors tourists who walk away disgusted and dissapointed. If I was a tourist visiting I might spend 10 minutes there looking for something not there. I'm not sure what I would replace it with but replaced it must.

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